Tuesday
Jul282009
You're Ou'st: The Least Important People In Nightlife
Everyone loves to come up with Top 10 lists, but we wanted to try something different. So we thought, why not have some fun this summer and see who are some of the least important people in the nightlife and hospitality industry? A Bottom 10 list, if you will. We are calling it "You're Ou'st: The Least Important People In Nightlife". Catchy, right? We'll find out who they are, what they do, and what makes them so gosh darn unimportant. But first, we need you to come up with some suggestions for us, otherwise, this may not go anywhere. Feel free to nominate anyone, but let's keep it clean, and keep the accusations to ourselves.



DBTH
Reader Comments (184)
wow look at this.. lets see. why didnt i do this,,do that.. ok . pk.... i dont think i talked badly about scott. i totally respect this blog, hey,, im here arent i ?. when did i say bad things about him?
uncle stevie drunk-posting above. watch out!
10) Patrick
9) Cabido
8) Ericson
7) Jayma
6) Cardozo
5) Jamie
4) Mullhulland
3) Jon
2) Lennon
1) James (the Irish Dbag from Upstairs at the Box)
@Maya: so funny that your list is basically a dig on Gold Bar and your number 1 is James that irish guy from upstairs at the Box--he is such an effin retard. Don't understand why would the jane pick him as the door man.... I like the space/people, but I was really surpirsed. he makes binn seem like a rocket scientist. trues story: once saw him ask miranda kerr if she was on the list. should have gone with jeffrey from socialista...he's used to working the far west....james looks like he's plotting the next IRA bombing!!!!
no more knockin' on james. LEAVE JAMES ALONE! he gives great head.
sherry cosovic. huge bitch from what i hear. does being a bitch make u influential? prob not
Top 5 Most Useless People (But they actually think they're important)
1. BRITTANY MENDENHALL, Here is a girl who absolutely does NOT fit the profile of anything a doorman would want to let in, created a blog to get into these places, and now blackmales anyone on her blog who remotely gives her a hard time. Who remembers her trying to air out Hector from Griffin on there because he didn't know who she was? Sweetie you are a nobody get over it.
2. gabi richmond & steve martinek or any other 250$ promoter
3. BLOCCCCCCC GRRRROUUUUPPP - OH HAY WE WENT TO CORNELL WE KNOW WHAT WERE DOING EVEN THOUGH IM JORDAN HARRIS AND I LOOK LIKE A HOMELESS MAN THAT WANDERED INTO M2.
4. of course david jaffee. what is a list with out him.
5. EVERYONE FROM NEW JERSEY! AND YONKERS! AND JERICO LONG ISLAND.
That was really disparaging they are ousted from their respective positions..LOL..
1. DBTH- whats more irrelvant than a poor hipster like scott solish. his mockery of those involved in nightlife clearly shows signs of jealousy
Promoters (joke!)
2. david jaffe- one confused human being.
3. josh shames, alan phillips, sky group- manage group of 18 & 19 year old long island jewish promoters at lamest venues in the city
4. jordan harris, bloc group- same shit, takes over venues that are on their way out by filling them up with a 'filler' crowd
5. jonathan schwartz- marquees poppin! with negroes
6. matt lipman- tenjews tonite wat wat!
How dare you talk about people like:
Richie Akiva, Scott Sartiano, Bin Jakupi, Genc Jakupi, Eugene Remm, Mark Birnbaum, Noah Tepperberg, Jason Strauss, Steven Lewis ... and others who have made and still are making serious paper in this messed up nightlife scene of NYC!
Give the above mentioned props, stop hating and keep talkin shit about Arthur Kade, Noel Ashman, Jon B, Jordan Harris, Brian Gefter, Matthew Isaacs, Wass Stevens, David Jaffee, Yuval Elder, Matt Levine, John Engelbert ... and other deuchebags worth abusing!
My vote goes to Arthur Kade, hands down! FUCKIN HERB!
July 29, 2009 at 01:54AM | Models & Bottles
Genc & Bin? hahahahahaha you guys need to stop posting this shit. How could you even try and include yourselves on that list? Delirious trash.
I think David Rodolitz and Adam Elzer have done an incredible job with Citrine and not to mention, opening up at a very tough time. I give them props. They have always acted like true businessmen whenever I've dealt with them. They've also been in the game for a lot long then people realize - 10 - 15 years of true grinding.
More like old ass ghetto slut whom no one respects.
Richie Akiva is the man.
Team Stua!
One of the few honest commentators. Always look fwd to reading his stuff.
The bottom line is all you haters are jealous because we make a lot of paper and hang with models and celebs. You guys are all faggot ass haters can't wait to crush you all at Provacatuer. Scott, Richie, Noah, Jason and me and my boy Gefter thats all New York needs.
Aalex Julian runs things at Tenjune, how is unimportant? Because you cant get in?
okay stua. i look forward to the day you take over the boite column in the NY Times.
actually in all honesty, i would totally prefer an anonymous "insider" writer over another Hesser/Bruni idiohack any day of the week.
but anyways. i don't have to stick up for steve-lewis cuz he's a big boy and can obviously take care of himself. but it's just kinda a bummer when i see barbs or whatever slung at him (or like even mark-baker for example). it seems to me they make a very genuine and heartfelt effort to address their "critics," (and certainly neither of them claims to be perfect) and i guess, as somebody who's walked a mile or so in their e-shoes, it just strikes me as somewhat unfair or unbalanced is all.
peoples often make the argument that anybody who puts him/herself "out there" is fair game for criticism. the problem is: i don't think those same people would disagree-- but why should a "commenter" (who enjoys the very same audience and "exposure") be held to a lesser standard of character?
normal day to day "nonvirtual" interaction in a civilized society demands courtesy, decency, decorum, and (as even you admit) tact. it's great that you aren't trying to expose steve-lewis's ongoing problem with genital warts (a touchy subject with him, to be sure), but then why does he deserve less consideration than like say a jayma whoever (?) or other people you interact with regularly, whom you probably wouldn't address nearly as harshly?
if you believe "most" (MOST??! whaat) of what i "put out there" then you probably already know i have not been exactly kind to a lot of peoples, either. but the difference i try to make is that i would never ever ever ever put in text anywheres what i wouldn't say straight to those mutherfukkers' stupid jackass faces. (BET.)
oh whatever. i'm done babbling. who cares
thank you. xo
:)
i just want to add however: personally i think nightlife peoples really need to retire the "'cause you couldn't get in?" line of defense for all their detractors. cuz it is SO FUCKING TIRED.
i am living proof (just ask the jerkface at Gold Bar) it doesn't take much to "get in" at all. all it takes is a couple of jacksons i would have blown the next day on my fucking TOENAILS, anyway. so puhlease with all your played out bullshit pretensions already.
nightlife existed waaaay before yalls (and arguably much "hotter" too) so before you stick your finger in your nose and throw out "'cause you couldn't get in?" (huh uhuh uh derr) you'd maybe better just think again. trust me when i say you're not helping your "case" at all.
I'M JUST SAYIN.
who is more accountable for tenjunes success?
aalex julian (doorman) or mark & eugene (promoters).... i hear different things
Abbe, r u syaing you paid Jon Lennon at the door of Goldbar to let you in and he went for it? You sure you didn't blow him? Also, Did Noah really let Genc (who is obviously a pussy) "slap him" without retalitation?
Binn
Gary Malhotra
Adam Glove
Jon B
JE Englebert
David Jaffey
Matt Lish
Abdel & Antonio of rockstar ent.
Matt Lipman
So, after about 125 posts, and various opinions, we get a few facts.
1. Everyone sees things differently, but for the most part, people recognize that there are some at the top, and some at the bottom. We have a spirited debate about the middle, which is good.
2. Sometimes we confuse "unimportant" with "shady". We should clarify which is which, there are some very influential people that are total shitheads, and some powerless peons that are quite nice, respectable people. We are getting them confused.
3. All walks of life, from high to low, and owner to promoter, from old ass club designer to here-today/gone-today promoters, pretty much agree David Jaffee is a useless douchebag.
So order still exists in the universe. Good.
i like scott and richie !!! the rest are a bunch of greedy jews amen !
So it all comes down to the Jaffster?
ah ha hah "went for it" ?? he ASKED for it. he straight up DEMANDED it like a two bit petty assed panhandler hustling for scraps. and then as soon as we got inside, the manager recognized my industry homegirl and bought us all a round of drinks to make up for our inconvenience. so the money that likely SHOULD have gone into the GoldBar bank account, went into HIS pocket instead.
that's a fact, jack ass.
but according to steve-lewis, this is the act of a "CONSUMMATE PRO."
okay steve-lewis. so while you're busy trying to "save nightlife" from the righteous, revolted, flood wrought-ing WRATH OF GOD, just don't be mad at me if i sit back praying and crossing my fingers your stupid ark springs a leak or something.
"maybe the ship needs to make money..."
huh. "THE SHIP needs to make money." NO. ya think?
yah. okay. good luck with that.
wow a tell all book from the hostess. hahahhahahaha and sells clothes on the street. hahhahahhahahahahha and sits home on computer and comments on people who are actually working in the industry she watches from afar. hahahahahaha and is asian hahahahahhahaah and wrote about celebrities just based on how she was greeted as a HOSTESS hahahahahhahaha wow that really qualifies you in my book as someone to listen to in the industry NOT! stop hurting people abbe diaz. your harsh language and negative comments show the condition of your spirit. you dont see yourself. try and see the good abbe diaz. maybe you should take up a hobby other than cursing at people on blogs. love u long time. a waitress in the INDUSTRY your not in. yup. just a low level waitress. and proud!
oh hi servicegirl ! lemme guess-- you're either Jon Lennon in a dress or the retarded bitch who IS blowing him.
SUCK MY FUCKING ASS YOU PUNK BITCH CROSS EYED GIMP
i think abbe diaz is hot! i think abbe that you are straight up genius and almost always right but in all fairness you dont know much about how club doors work. jon lennon is a really great doorperson. he is also a good person. thank you for being out there and putting your 1 and a half sense in. thank you for your support. i just wish you hadn't called me big boy or referred to my genital warts,,you did promise not to tell... now you have all 3 people ive slept with this decade worried
The following people should not be on this list because they invented nyc nightlife for all the new jacks and fools that came along!
steve lewis
david rabin
noel ashman
lesly bernard
will regan
mark baker?
howard stein
amy sacco
arthur weinstein
roy liebenthal
jeff gosset
nur khan
I agree with history wow cheers!
worst tread ever
I thought she is a mexican? Or she just has a filthy mouth like one!
However "History" several of those people, like a athlete well past their time, have hung on for two long. They have become somewhat irrelevant.
On another note
There is much people can say about Steve. He is getting a lot of play on this site. He is one of those people who when you talk to him he will tell you that he is the best at everything, started everything / everyone and knows better then you. The problem is when it comes to clubs he was a innovator, he was pretty good at it and when it comes to how a club should run, he probably knows better then you. I hate a lot of the design work but, its always functional and you never actually know what kind of budget he has been given. When it comes to the blog, most of the people out there do it as a hobby with hopes of making some revenue on advertising. Steve gets paid for his opinions. So we can say a lot about it but his past and current history keeps him well off this list.
The clear answer is this. The most unimportant people in NYC nightlife aren't on any of your lists. The people who are so unimportant, nobody knows.
cole bernard.
taking money from people to let people into a club surely is not a good door person if it happened ...clearly if someone offers someone money thats a lil different to if someone outright is just looking to take monies from people ...its not just bad for gold bar and makes them look low grade and tacky for hiring such a person ....its bad for nightlife ...i was not there to see it happen but if anyone makes it a rule to take money off people and pocket it for access say a lot about what they think of the place they work at
clearly it must be bad for business or as i see it - starting a business within a business is not good for both businesses .
John is clearly a good doorman but if he did this well thats just not cool .and makes him tacky ...not saying hes cool just a good doorperson from what ive seen in general .
p.s if jon is going this does that mean he walks home with gold bars ...lol
Abbe Diaz is clearly disappointed and unhappy with her life. Someone who has never owned or operated a thriving business is in no way qualified to judge anyone else in that capacity, but this clearly makes her feel better about herself. Those who cant, critique? If this thread was about being a great hostess, how to seat a table, how to bus a table, etc then maybe she might have something constructive to offer. Her comments speak volumes about her lack of self confidence. Bullies are always the saddest inside.
Abbe Diaz did you just tell someone to....and quote "SUCK MY FUCKING ASS YOU PUNK BITCH CROSS EYED GIMP". Why would anyone ever believe you and/or your credibility after this statement? I originally thought you were a rebel but now I kinda feel bad for you. A grown woman saying such things? A writer? It seems you are just having a dialogue with your anger. Nobody is here to defend themselves. Especially, on these lonely blogs.
"...and then as soon as we got inside, the manager recognized my industry homegirl and bought us all a round of drinks..."
So sad and desperate for recognition Abbe Diaz, so sad.
Clearly a made up tale.
JESUS... SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE JUST RUDE AND ANTI SEMITIC AND IGNORANT. THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF NIGHT LIFE, IS THERE WILL NEVER BE A GRACEFUL EXIT. THE MEN GET OLDER AND THEY ARE STILL PRAYING ON TEENAGE GIRLS, WHICH LEADS THEM TO NEVER RESPECT WOMEN AND HAVE "REAL" RELATIONSHIPS OR MARRIAGE OR FAMILIES OF THEIR OWN. SOME TRY BUT END UP FOR THE MOST PART MISERABLE. THE "FRIENDSHIPS" THEY FORM ARE TRANSIENT. THEY END UP SIMPLY USING PEOPLE DAY AND NIGHT, SO NOBODY REALLY TRUSTS OR RESPECTS THEM. PROMOTERS ARE THE MOST UNIMPORTANT TOXIC PEOPLE IN ANY CLUB, BUT ACT LIKE THEY OWN THE CLUB, THE BUILDING THE BLOCK ITS ON EVERYTHING, EVEN THE GIRLS AND CELEBS THEY BRING OUT. ITS DISGUSTING. WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO OPEN A VENUE FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT OUT ON THE TOWN, HEAR SOME GOOD MUSIC AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE ATTITUDE. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE LIFE WAS OPEN, BUT FUUUCK, BOY OH BOY, THEM WERE THE DAYS. CAN THE FALL OF NIGHTLIFE REALLY BE THE BOTTLE SERVICE? IF SO, SOMEONE OPEN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT.
AS FOR WHO ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST IN NIGHTLIFE, I WOULD HAVE TO START WITH NUR (WHO EVER LET THIS GUY IN THE FRONT DOOR THE FIRST TIME, CLEARLY HAS ISSUES AND NEEDS TO BE BLAMED), SECOND ALL THE "MALE MODEL" PROMOTERS, WHO BRING WANNA BE MODELS WHO ARE IN FACT JUST GIRLS WHO GO ON CASTINGS AND HAVE PORTFOLIOS FULL OF BAD TEST SHOT FROM IOWA AND HAVE JUST GRADUATED FROM BARBIZON MODELING SCHOOL, AND THIRD THOSE DUMB GUYS WHO WEAR THE I HATE MODELS T SHIRTS... THEY ARE JUST VISUAL POLLUTION.
ARI KATZ and the Springboard crew def need to be on this list!
Riiiiight, Abbe Diaz is the one that's not credible. Not the racist, Asian-hating, stupid, ignorant, douchebag-defending 'servicegirl'. Even though Abbe already confronted Lennon about it on Facebook, and he admitted that it happened. Also, if you read the whole story, you would know that Abbe's 'industry homegirl' is a manager at La Esquina, and the guy that got rolled by Lennon for the $40 is someone that owns 7 restaurants. But suuuuure, Abbe is the one that's in the wrong here.
Nice try, Lennon. Here's a liitle tip for you that you don't even have to beg for. You stay at the door of your club, and us lonely 'blog commenters' will stay right here in our 'club'. The thing is, we're not as snotty about letting losers like you in. Anyone can come in and play.
But what you don't seem to realize is that we've been coming to this club so long, that we see right through all the desperate, pathetic, cowardly, laughable comments of yours. I just wish we also had bouncers to throw your stupid, obnoxious, clownish ass the fuck out.
Hey servicegirl, what else do you do when you're not servicing your johns for $10 a blowjob, or sucking doormens' dicks to improve your social life? Oh I know, you sit in front of your trailer looking for minorities to hate, gays to bash and raccoons to shoot. Right?
You're a fucking piece of shit.
Also, I got a little GOD for you, right here. I am a grown man and a writer, so allow me to write to you (and your douchebag doorman 'friend') with the utmost satisfaction -
SUCK MY FUCKING ASS YOU PUNK BITCH CROSS EYED GIMP
To Steve Lewis,
I don't know you, but Abbe speaks highly of you, and I liked the interviews you had with her. I respect what you've done, and you friendship with Abbe.
But I have to tell you that your defending this douchebag and what he did doesn't sit right with me. The reason that the restaurant industry doesn't support nightlife is because these shit clubs just make it harder for the valid restaurants that are providing a good service for everyone, to get their permits and licenses.
I don't go to clubs specifically because of reasons like this little shit, Lennon. But you keep wanting to uphold him as the ultimate professional in nightlife. Well, I hope you don't take it personally when I tell you that this is why so many people like me in the Rest industry don't take your NPC seriously. It's shit like this that is the reason that you will never get our votes or support.
hi, i dont have all the facts with this jon lennon/abbe thing. ill talk to jon and see whats up. maybe he made a mistake we all do. ive spent many hours hanging with him at the door of goldbar and have seen him work in the most professional manner but thats a generalization and ill look at the specifics here. abbe is great, i truely sweat her but she does sometimes ...get a bit emotional..as far as the npc. it's not my npc.. i came up with the idea and co chair with paul seres. paul,matt levine and ariel palitz and i meet weekly to gear up for the fall elections. we do have the full support of the new york nightlife association who we answer to. we are supported as well by the new york restaurant association. it is a group for all of nightlife, we are using the hundreds of thousands of names in our email and text msging data bases to influence primary elections come september. if my friendship and support of my friend jon lennon moves you away from this cause which seems to be one of the only hopes even if it is a straw of saving nightlife then so be it.
as is pointed out here very often and often by myself i am not perfect, but i am more perfect than most in regards to nightlife issues. some say no more say yes but the flow of checks signed by some of the really important people in this industry are some sort of validation. i paid enough dues in this industry to warrent respect. i dont rest on my laurels which include life, spa, palladium , tunnel , the world and many others instead i redefine myself and part of this world each day and yes i am paid for my efforts. since my words and designs are available every day for yours and the publics judgement i am exposed/naked to my critics. most of these hide behind aliases or have little experience to back their words. i see no excuse to not use one's name and i discount remarks from aliases as they have no credibility. stua claims he needs to protect his identity because he actually is an industry veteren. if so i know him well and his work is his judgement. i know who he isnt. he isnt anybody running any of the truly great places. if he were i would have or had a working relationship with him. i have no problems with any of the top tier people. this means he's working at or running a place which may have flawsi'd like to see what stua is doing, id like to be awed by his work , his creation. wouldnt everyone here. i respect stua but he's not real.
sigh. okay steve-lewis.
let's assume for one second that i never worked for any of the very same nightclubs (WITH YOU, no less) for which you've also worked. let's also assume i don't know ANY "professional" doormen-- nah, not even the doorman (slash Kawasaki machinist) i lived with for ten years, or his brother the doorman (slash Aikido Shodan) who's been working in nightlife probably as long as you (and still calls me his "sister-in-law").
[yea-- you even know these brothers BY NAME, steve-lewis.]
let's also assume i never worked years controlling some of the most so-called "elite" sought-after tables in NYC, and HAD to tolerate some of the most condescending, self-entitled, arrogant, egotistical assholes on the face of manhattan island.
fine. no problem. let's assume ALL THIS. sure. i "don't know much about how club doors work." okay.
my point is:
- i never said i did.
- what i DID say to you: EXACTLY, WORD FOR WORD, WITH A DIRECT QUOTE, WHAT OCCURRED THAT NIGHT. AT 10PM.
- my friends, who WERE THERE, bear witness to what happened. INSANELY ENOUGH, they agree with me (!!) that this was decidedly NOT the act of a "CONSUMMATE PRO."
true, none of us know AT ALL (not even the manager of velvet-gestapo-rope-apex, La Esquina) what it's like to run a nightclub door, yes? but yet strangely enough, we all just happen to agree. but i guess that makes all of US wrong, because ODDLY, we must have totally different definitions of what it means to be a "consummate professional."
steve lewis, you know i love you to death, but if you really persist in contending this is indeed YOUR definition of what it means to be named amongst THE HIGHEST echelons of nightlife-- nay, THE "consummate pro" no less-- and that THIS is the nightlife you will strive to "preserve" (via your ark or committee or whatever) then, what can i say, so be it.
i guess you're just confirming what i've been given AMPLE reasons (via numerous personal experiences) to suspect LATELY (but still, for some stupid reason, have rationalized away as "exceptions" to the norm):
nightlife no longer wants nor needs the patronage/support of people like me (or my friends).
okay. got it.
really-- really really truly-- IT'S FINE.
"maybe he made a mistake we all do"
yah. actually steve-lewis-- if you recall, in your original FARCEBOOK thread, mr.lennon had difficulty remembering all the details of that evening.
which kinda makes me wonder-- exactly how often does he make this sort of "mistake" ?
["if he owns seven restaurants, then he can afford to take care of ME. is he asking ME for a favor? then he needs to take care of ME."]
just curious.
abbe diaz, shut the fuck up
you're dropping to kade/jaffe status
you're fabulous and of course bright abbe and have tons of experience and yes i remember them well still i haven't seen jon act this way and i will pursue.. why not come with me and yours and we'll settle this onama style...with jon over a couple of beers.... at goldbar.... btw for those who need to know. i am not an employee of goldbar or any of the related spaces or by people who are employed or own the goldbar.. jon lennon doesnt pay me either but he did buy me dinner at umbertos last month.. omg that must be it !!! i've been bribed with a linguini and clam sauce dinner...