More Stink On The Box

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Jul202009

A few months after hearing that the Box had been in cost cutting mode, another Little Birdy who performs at the Lower East Side's most famous burlesque house tells DBTH about some pains from inside Simon Hammerstein's house of love. Like what, you ask? Layoffs, paycuts, sub-par talent and a craptastic crowd for starters. Let's go write the Birdy's mouth.

I'm a performer at The Box and can tell you that they have

a) fired the band
b) cut down on performers drastically, including nearly firing the dancers
c) cut performers pay drastically
d) accept sloppier and sloppier acts
e) the crowd gets worse and worse each month. it's now just a bunch of kids who think they are cool cuz they're at The Box. I haven't seen a celeb there for ages.

Click through to for additional dirt on the doormen, the new weekly beach party and labor pains.

f) all new door guys/cheaper door company. So if you think you can get in because the door guys have seen you there every weekend for the past year, think again.
g) last week there were only three performances, with no main show
h) there is a Tues gay night and a Wed beach party.
i) They only have one guy working the stage, and one new guy that doesn't know what he's doing. They had everything with no curtain last week, because there was no one to work it! All the stage hands were fired, so production has gone seriously downhill. The quality of the show is no where near what it used to be.

Ouch, ouch and more ouch. While discussion of the Box's downfall have long been pondered but never reality, massive staff turnover and a B/C crowd are not the best signs of economic health. Odds of this place making it to Summer, 2010 are 50/50 at best.

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Mon, July 20, 2009 at 08:36AM |

28 Comments

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Reader Comments (28)

Shame, the concept was original and ideally offered something different to nightlife that had become pretty redundant.

July 20, 2009 at 09:38AM |

Colin

The box is a genuinely unique place, so it is so sad to read about it's current troubles. Nothing stays fresh forever, and the box has had a pretty good run... Simon, Javier, and crew clearly have put in tremendous effort and $$$ to make many memorable experiences in this funky theatre. The show must cost a fortune to produce, so with the A-listers and the expense account wall streeters not around anymore, it's no surprise they are having trouble keeping the quality up. It made it through police raids, that snarky n y mag takedown attempt, and the nonsensical lawsuit unscathed, but it's going to take some serious retooling to survive the recession.

Forget the Beatrice, it's gone. SAVE THE BOX!!! It is so much more than a nightclub, it is great entertainment - (Raven!!! Bravo!) I'm hoping that the box can be saved in some form, somehow, because anyone who's been knows it is irreplaceable.

July 20, 2009 at 12:01PM |

roomsy

What about the doorman slapping Noah around a few weeks ago. That's never a good business plan.

July 20, 2009 at 02:25PM |

Box Attack

so b/c u haven't seen a celeb there in a while that means its wack now? gay

July 21, 2009 at 12:04AM |

brooklynboy

good riddance

July 21, 2009 at 04:42AM |

hmmm....

thats right a club is only good when u get celebs ......10 jeune ,green(cheese)oop greenhouse you can see these places being talked about in 20 years ....not

July 21, 2009 at 06:07AM |

ano

wait, what happened to noah at the door of the box..do tell please!!!

July 21, 2009 at 09:19AM |

jah man

No celebrities? I saw Estelle (American Boy) there last week. I hear it is still packed most nights and the gay party and the beach party are both really fun.

July 21, 2009 at 12:31PM |

anonymous

NOAH vs GENC ... What really happened!?

July 21, 2009 at 05:10PM |

James

genc can suck it- doesnt even know who returning guests r... other than that the box is fucking cool

July 21, 2009 at 07:36PM |

deez

Yeah, I totally want to know what hapened with Noah and Genc!!

July 21, 2009 at 10:32PM |

Nima

does genc still do the door there? this post seems to suggest a new crew is doing the door

July 22, 2009 at 03:30AM |

What happened???????????

July 22, 2009 at 05:31AM |

ahahahaha

Story is that security let Noa in one night a few weeks back, and door guy (genc or ganz) found out, flipped out on his security and literally slapped noa multiple times.

July 22, 2009 at 08:43AM |

Box Watcher

If actually true, that is BEYOND hilarious.

July 22, 2009 at 10:58AM |

wow

Ladies and Gentlemen -- DON'T save The Box. The recession helped, but the destroyer of "The Box" is Simon Hammerstein. From the beginning he has been a childish irresponsible abuser who has been a monster to his employees (save those he finds attractive, and even then... no one is fully safe from his bullshit) and a horrible businessman from the start. Countless awful and often illegal things have happened in that den of depravity, and as one who helped build it I am most happy to watch it finally crumble to the ground. Maybe the "idea" was exciting but the execution of it, at best, was a nightmare. Don't save Simon. He doesn't deserve to be saved.

Goodbye, Box. Never come back.

July 22, 2009 at 11:14AM |

boxanon

genc is a pussy...

July 22, 2009 at 01:16PM |

wiki

ahahahaha I can't believe this, anyone else know what happened?

July 22, 2009 at 05:58PM |

Genc tried to make Noah wait. Noah took umbrage. Genc took a swing...

July 23, 2009 at 12:36AM |

Sunshine

Why hasn't this Noah (Tepperberg, presumably) incident been reported elsewhere, like in Blackbook or Page Six?....

Perhaps worth a DBTH investigation

July 23, 2009 at 07:13AM |

hmmm....

I totally agree. PLEASE INVESTIGATE DBTH

July 23, 2009 at 09:20AM |

jah man

Uncle Stevie eluded to it in one of his posts just recently...

"...finally it was Noah Tepperberg and door guru Genc at The Box—the last incident raised more than a few eyebrows. I say if dudes like that are going to roll around The Box and get physical, then put it up on stage and promote the hell out of it. Noel Ashman could ref."

I personally DEMAND that DBTH investigate further. It is shocking to me that DBTH hasn't posted something about it. Please get on this DBTH…

July 23, 2009 at 01:40PM |

yessss

Noah wasn't allowed in because he looks like a loser (chubby, bald, ugly, poorly dressed in designer denim (7 for all man kind). He tried to pull rank with the security people, who he has employed in the past and Genc, who is volatile and easily excitable was not happy about it.

Noah used to be smart enough to stay in the background, he should fade back and let a jason be the face of the business, no one wants to party with people who look dress or talk (long island trash) like noah

Genc is a hothead, he isnt great at doing the door (but he is drinking/coking buddies with simon, so he won't be removed). Genc is a nice enough guy (it's not like any real winners are lining up to be nightclub doormen, so he is as good as the box is gonna get)

And Noah's pr people had the story killed from page six (as everyone knows any mention on page six is for sale)

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