Why are they all leaving all of a sudden?

I am pretty sure Tim was fired. He didnt leave. And Shawn is working as host assistant at the other club. I wouldnt call that a lateral or upwards move. Seems, actually, UTTERLY EMBARASSING if you ask me! He must have sold his pride and dignity to get this gig. Seriously.

And Pink just had the most expensive table EVER in NYC history. That table alone would keep them open for months. That table was revenue from some clubs for an entire month. Let alone one night.

Also, Kiss and Fly is where all the people fired from Pink Elephant for a lack of performance go to work.
Whats the saying?
Imitation is the sincerist form of flaterring? or something to that effect.

Either way, Shawn seems like a lost boy. Not sure if he is even sane at this point, or if he is just selling out and trying to get as much from his list of people he's met over the years to come to KNF so he can get commision off them and pimp out his rolodex and not give a shit. Takes balls to demote yourself like that. An owner to host assistant. At least he has a job, I guess.

Tim is nobody.
Shawn 15 years owner/operator of some of NYC's best clubs and is now a host assistant making 200 dollars a night?
Sounds to me like something more is going on to this story.

People dont "leave" jobs in December on their own will without another job lined up. So obviously Tim was fired. That seems pretty clear in his email. Otherwise he would have said he was worknig somewhere else. Like Shawn did.

ouch!!!

No speculation on Tim, but Shawn and the other promoter owners really do nothing for the place. The only sad part is that the club remains a success despite the fact that the owners are sleaseball perverts. Shawn left to host at Citrine...so..well....that tells you what he is worth. Next Rocco will leave to go polish silverware at Merkato55, again, no big loss.

And correction, but Kiss and Fly is full of Guesthouse rejects, not Pink rejects. And apparently bottle girls are leaving Mr. West so quickly, they are hiring chicks with no experience (and no eyebrows, per the rumor). Hell in a handbasket...

NY Oracle is clueless

let's hear about this supposed biggest table ever in a nyc nightclub?

Its a fact. It was on the front page of the London sun. 200K. The guys bought a couple hundred bottles of Champagne and just gave it out to the club. I was there and it was truly the craziest thing I have ever seen in a nightclub.

Give props where props is due... Pink has been going strong for 4 years... Yes, it's had times where its been better or worse, but it's been going strong none the less... Keep in mind it's not a small place either, like bungalow 8, rose bar or Mr. West, which would make it easier to fill with a good crowd... And if it wasn't for Pink, Kiss and Fly wouldn't exist - guess they would have tried to copy another club.

NY Oracle, are you for real knocking Rocco like that? The guy has been behind some of the best parties in NYC history - Pink, Sundays at Pangaea, and Boom back in the 90's to name a few....

but let me ask you this... do they have flutes? i didn't think so.

where be david sarner now? promoting eldridge?

"polishing silverware at merkato" hahahahahah so mean

FOR REAL and anti B&T - yes I am . FOR REAL I was also at that night at Pink and know the guy (loosely, I'll admit) giving away all the booze. Do you remember what night of the week it was? I am not clueless...

And antiB&T - Yes. Association does NOT mean delivery. There are people that have been "associated" with all kinds of parties, but don't actually DO anything. Think about it. These guys have been working at clubs for 10, some 15 years. If you work at any other business that long, you are either a major player, or potentially owning/at the top of the game. Guys like Noah and Jason, Mark Baker, etc. You can't even compare their impact to people like Rocco, or Richie Akiva, and they have been at it half as long. Its the difference between hard work, and posturing. If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense...

I know them more then loosely and it was a Wednesday wise ass.

FYI 1OAK, Richie Akiva's Spot.....Makes the most money in the city right now.

Your comparisons are all wrong because Baker and Rocco have been at it for a similar time frame. Same for Noah and Richie.

Wasn't gonna keep responding but I feel a follow up is due to NYCOracle -

I agree with you 100% that Noah, Jason and Baker are very successful owners/operators - they've put together very successful businesses... For Real is right when he says that Akiva's spot is doing great...especially in such a crappy economy... And Rocco isn't "posturing" as you say... He is a partner there... He's also been a partner in other venues in the past not just in NYC, but also Miami and the Hamptons... The easy thing to do is let in B and T (I am antiB&T!!!!) to let them spend thousands, but places that do that don't stick around for 4 years! So many partners try to cash out and sell their share when a club is at it's peak - maybe you think that lack of loyalty to a club/restaurant/project is how one defines success... That is how you burn bridges and ruin your name... Do you think what David Graziano did to pink was ethical? He even went so far as to stealing Pink's customers contact information....

By the way, further props to the Marquee guys for keeping it going so long... Not my favorite club at all, haven't been there in years and it ain't my thing - but that place is a well run business...

sundays at pangaea! whoo whoo! stripper sundays were still better than anything from the last few years.

yes! pangaea sundays! i haven't found anything that compares since in terms of a family vibe and a continuous stream of quality, non B'N'T people. despite my extensive clubland pedigree, i have not cracked beatrice inn yet (partly bad luck i guess; certainly not for lack of "paying my dues"). does the vibe come close to pangaea sundays there?

FOR REAL, I cede the point, it was a Wednesday and PK was spraying it all around. But c'mon 1Oak does not make money bro...the tables are all comp! Have you ever seen anyone pull out a credit card at the door? I will say for its follies, Pink does still churn a lot of cash. I'm pretty sure 1Oak will not survive the summer, as become as empty as GSpa.

1Oak makes the most money in the city? lol where have you been?
Marquee makes more money than every club in NYC, well known fact, aside from one big night @ PINK (Which I heard was later a charge back), Marquee cant be touched. Might not be the most exclusive, but certainly the most profitable.

ok so opinions aside, I think we can all agree that jb has no idea what he is talking about.

tim is a homo nobody